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Excerpt from an Interview with Osho by the Italian edition of SCIENCE 85 MONTHLY.
Q: ONE OF THE BASIC PROBLEMS OF SCIENCE IS LANGUAGE. SCIENCE IS GROWING BECAUSE WE HAVE A CLEAR DEFINITION OF WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. ONE OF THE BASIC PROBLEMS FOR A SCIENTIST, WHEN THEY ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INNER JOURNEY MEANS, IS TO DEFINE CLEARLY, FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT CONSCIOUSNESS MEANS. MOST OF THE SCIENTISTS DON’T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CONSCIOUSNESS, AWARENESS AND THE CONSCIOUS MIND. THEY ARE USING THIS TERM IN THE SAME WAY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU IF IT’S POSSIBLE TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING ABOUT THOSE TERMS.
Yes, there is no difficulty. Words can be defined clearly. The difficulty is not because of the words, the basic difficulty is coming from somewhere else.
That is, the scientist, deep down, does not believe that there is anything inner. He may say so, he may not say so, but his whole training, his whole education, makes him trust only objects which he can dissect, which he can observe, which he can analyze, which he can compose, create, uncreate, find out their basic constituents. His whole mind is object-oriented, and subjectivity is not an object.
So if he wants subjectivity to be put before him on the table, that is not possible; that is not the nature of subjectivity. So the scientist goes on finding everything in the world except himself.
A great barrier exists, and the barrier is that there is nothing inner. When you cut a stone into pieces, what do you find? — more stone. You go on cutting smaller pieces, smaller pieces; you get to molecules, you get to atoms, you get to electrons, but still you have not come to anything inner. They are all objects.
He would also like life to be found in the same way, and because he cannot find life in the same way, he starts denying it. And consciousness is even more difficult a problem; because he cannot touch it, dissect it, find out its constituents, he simply rejects it. It does not exist.
So this is his prejudice. Because of this prejudice, he gets confused. And this prejudice can disappear very simply, if he hypothetically accepts — I’m not saying he has to believe it, just hypothetically he accepts that if there are things outside, then it is something very scientific to accept that there must be things which are inner, because in existence, everything is polarized by its opposite. The outer can exist only if there is an inner. The unconscious can exist only if there is consciousness. This is the simple dialectics of life — and he knows it, in existence everywhere he will find the same dialectics. Everything is opposed by its opposite. And they both are in some strange way complementary to each other — opposing, and still complementary to each other.
Denying the inner is a very unscientific attitude. So first one has hypothetically to accept that the inner exists. Secondly, one has to understand that the methodology that works for the outer cannot work for the inner. Simply because the inner is the opposite dimension, the same methods will not be applicable. You will have to find new methodology for the inner. And that’s what I call meditation: this is the new methodology for the inner.
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first of all, there …
first of all, there was a man first ant later he invented the computer so how can u say we are advanced computer?
i agree with all that action/reaction and electrical storm thing, but this is just a data about our physical body and its chemic reactions…im not saying that there is something more just cuz i want to worship smth… i say so cuz i have experienced smth more… how can u deny inner experience wihtout being in that state? have u ever experienced a meditation?
What’s there to be …
What’s there to be sorry about?
get use to it. life …
get use to it. life is not logical. logic is not = light = good = god = hapyness = …
sorry to have to tell this to you.
You feel beter if …
You feel beter if you know but knowledge is only electrical storms in your brain as you said. it has limitations but the part of you who sees is not bound the same way. if you are watching this you probably already know all this ;P
if you are honest …
if you are honest you wont find answers youll find reality as the truth. And the mind wont know what to do with it. It will seem helpless and not smart.. But you can still use it to make planes, play “go”, and all that
“we are organic …
“we are organic machines , nothing more”-> this is dogmatic.
“we are an advanced computer, do you search for a *soul* in a computer just because it can count and do basic *thinking* ?” – that is not the reason “we” search, in fact we dont search at all its all wright here. the body is like our vehicle (mechanical with mechanical behabiour). Its our temple; its not us really.
its an interesting …
its an interesting mental construction I also had some time ago but its very dishonest with your experience. You dont only think, you actualy see your thoughts and your life. What is hapening to you when you say that is that you are bothered or amazed by some type of mental framework that engloves the knowledge you have been taugh -as was my case- by society that seems to fail to reach those same conclusions. this veil is incredibly thin. dont think of soul in relation to any atributes
@nekftw
The EGO is …
@nekftw
The EGO is constantly RE-defined and reinforced as more experience arrives with time, therefore you are now not the six-year-old you were once. Nor when you’re 70 will you be the person you are now.
We are dynamic beings therefore a defined character traps us in a prison of trying to be instead of just being.
The Ego is not who you are, it’s what it wants you to THINK you are.
When the ego is subjugated the true self is realised.
We are all the same at the base of mind.
@verrybrainie
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@verrybrainie
Namaste.
Outstanding and …
Outstanding and stupendous!!! OSHO is great!!
our inner is …
our inner is already defined, the word is *character*
your character is defined by how you grew up, what you experienced, what conclusions you came to.
its the action/reaction sceme that goes on in your brain.
people always want it to be something gloryful but its nothing more than electrical storms in our brains.
we are organic machines , nothing more.
we are an advanced computer, do you search for a *soul* in a computer just because it can count and do basic *thinking* ?
I can cut down a …
I can cut down a conscience to its compounds. The subjective can be viewed on as objective as the stone is used t build a wall. Using the right meditation you can find your subjective self in the same way you see the outer.
Opposites are not fixed, they may become the same according to circumstances. That is what dialectics told us.
I am a scinetist, …
I am a scinetist, very aware of dialectiscs, and i have a great respect for many of Osho’s teaching.
But i’m not convinced of the part where he tells that if there is an author, there must be an inner. I experienced the power of meditation. But his logic here is not right towards my understanding.
He is not afraid to contradict himself, and so he does as i learned from him that my subjective conscience can be seen objectively, with practice even by itself.
OSHO is incredible. …
OSHO is incredible. Just incredible.
omg osho you saved …
omg osho you saved me again.
i like the way he …
i like the way he explains the duality between things like inner and outside, there both complementing eachother, a basic rule in life
great……..
great……..
Dude, gotta love …
Dude, gotta love Osho, he’s the most awesome!
bruce lee said that …
bruce lee said that and so did the buddha, mahavira and patanjali et al
Kayentertainment101 …
Kayentertainment101, it is always very difficult to convey in words the Truth. Words are only a guide, a finger pointing to the Moon. Do not focus on the finger (the words of Osho) but instead focus on his very existence. It is in the Silence between the words that the Truth is being revealed. Take a deep breadth, let it out slowly, and don’t try to do anything. Watch the video again and allow whatever questions that your brain produces to arise and fall. Just sit and allow, and wait.
so you can’t have …
so you can’t have one without the other? polarity? if you are poor on the outside in the physical then what?then your rich on the inside? or if your poor somebody else is rich? what are you saying?
i love my DADA
i love my DADA
he just looks like …
he just looks like he would only be about 30years old under that beard…
looking at him as …
looking at him as he is talking, It’s like he’s still asking “do you understand, do you really understand what I’m trying to tell you??”